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s_stabeler



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Harry Potter theme- Work in Progress  

ok, the beginnings of a Harry Potter theme.

The Trio- masons.
Harry Potter- Can cancel the Lynch, plus cna only be killed by Lord Voldemort. has a limited Vigilante ability, if he identifies Lord Voldemort,he can kill him/her immediately.
The Order of the Phoenix- masons if more than 3 masons, in addition to the trio. otherwise not used
The Death Eaters- Wolves
Lord Voldemort- invulnerable to Lynch ( can only be killed by Harry Potter).plus has an extra nightkill once per game if he can identify harry potter, otherwise the nightkill will fail, revealing Lord Voldemort to Harry Potter. also has one conversion per game.
Auror- Vigilante, however cannot kill Lord Voldemort, if he tries, will die in the attempt.
Wizard/Witch- ordinary villagers
Professor Trelawney: Seer

for those that have read the books, for this game lets assume the Horcruxes have all been destroyed. the reason why i haven;lt created special roles for the other two members of the trio, BTW, is that I cant think of any particular things to give either of them.

victory conditions:
Death Eaters: kill all villagers AND masons, plus have Lord Voldemort still alive
everyone else: all death eaters dead, including Lord Voldemort.


by the way, I know there will be protests about the vulnerable only to each other, but that's due to the books. in the Books, Harry is motre than a match for a Death Eater, but could be killed by lord Voldemrot if he is caught off-guard.
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Darkness



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject:  

Hermione is very smart and has lots of bookwisdom, surely something could be done with that.

Ron is extremely clumsy, so he could be a fool type of role.


I wouldnt use two teams on the good side though.


Honestly though, when I think of a Harry Potter theme, I'm thinking more of a double trouble game, with a good team and a bad team, and amongst the 'rest' there would be both good and bad wizards too. It's a seem that loans itself perfectly for new and uncommon roles, instead of just a different storyline to a standard game.
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject:  

Order of the Phoenix is only if there are too many masons for the Trio, and would be in the same group, forum, etc as the trio.

and I am unsure what role would fit Hemione, vigilante? healer?

and as for double-trouble game, the trouble with that is you would have the minsitry, order and trio all on the same side. besdies, i only want a small variation on the ordinary game for my first theme game, not a massive change.
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Darkness



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject:  

By the way.. doesn't the rule that only voldemort can kill Harry kinda go against the story? Voldemorts problem is, in fact, that he is unable to kill Harry. He already failed a couple times :P
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject:  

because I have to give the bad guys a fair chance, that's why. if I made harry invulnerable, no-one would play the game. by the way, Harry's power to stop the lynch is for every day, not once. also, voldemort's problme in killing haryr ahs been thta harry ahs always somehow dodged akilling curse. f Voldemort ambushed harry, I doubt harry would survive.
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Darkness



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject:  

also, i think atleast Dumbledore should have a part in this theme :) Aswell as Snape and maybe even Hagrid!!
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Elvengirl



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject:  

lol this reminds me to my LOTR theme, when i simply couldnt let any character from the book out. I could try to find it at my documents, and maybe run it here once
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DungeonMoron



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject:  

The only motive I will have if we ever play a HP theme, is so that I can eat/slaughter/shred/kill/slay/murder everyone :brick:
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Darkness



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject:  

lol

honestly.. how much i love the Harry Potter books, it does seem rather silly as a theme here ;)
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NibbyCat



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject:  

DungeonMoron wrote: The only motive I will have if we ever play a HP theme, is so that I can eat/slaughter/shred/kill/slay/murder everyone :brick:

What if someone had a witch/wizard theme with similar character types but didn't use the HP names? Is it the Harry Potter universe itself that bothers you, or are you offended by the idea of witches and wizards being good guys?
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DungeonMoron



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject:  

No, I'm just moaning about HP in general. Which is a general past time of mine :wink:
Nothing more than a bit of sarcasm
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject:  

darkness, Dumbledore isn't featured in this as it would be towards the end of Book 7, so Dumbledore is dead.

I might put Snape and other characters in, just for the sake of giving everyone a HP character as a role. for instance, Hermione and Ron will at least be in there as members of the trio, as will all known order members in the order. although having Dumbledore as a GA sounds oddly appropriate, although if I add dead characters then I would almost certainly have to add the founders.

DM, you would make a wonderful Lord Voldemort.

and I know a Harry Potter them is weird, but we certainly have the mechanics available to amke it more realistic ( like the duelling game mechanic from the Japan game, that can be adapted to this.)
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ExarKun



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject:  

Why base it in any book peroid, why not make it a general theme in the world of Harry Potter? I mean if it was bassed in OOTP you could have everyone but that Cedric kid, I mean why limit yourself.

And you probably shouldn't say who lives or dies in the books, cause some people don't read the book and go to movie, but whatever.

Me feeling is if your making an HP thme, just throw in everyone. Who the hell cares if someone died in such and such book.
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject:  

if I include all characters, the good side gets far too much power, esp as the special roles would also be masons.[/b]
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Darkness



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject:  

s_stabeler wrote: darkness, Dumbledore isn't featured in this as it would be towards the end of Book 7, so Dumbledore is dead.



No, he is not. :D
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject:  

we won't go into those theories, thank you.
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ExarKun



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject:  

s_stabeler wrote: if I include all characters, the good side gets far too much power, esp as the special roles would also be masons.[/b]

Not exactly, cause while you could have a role for every charecter, you don't need to use every person all the time, only for when you have players.

As for not enough Bad guys, there are dozens of Death Eaters, while there is not as many known about other than Lucious, Beletraix (awful at the names), we still have enough name of Death Eaters that we could just make up a little, Crabe and Goyle's parents, even Narcisia has more background info. So in the end, we have more than enough bad guys we can use.

And like I said you don't need EVERY charecter. But the ones that everyone at least knows should be used I think.
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Darkness



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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject:  

s_stabeler wrote: we won't go into those theories, thank you.

No need :)
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Elvengirl



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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject:  

or you can make it pretty simle

good side - the trio, and guardian angel + the seer

bad side - lord voldermort and death eaters


the trio - everyone of those 3 could have special abilities - you already thought about harry potter, hermione could be healer as you said, while ron could be vigilante.

leave out order of the phoenix no matter how many players you have, as you will give powers to 3 good guys already, let all the rest be wizards/witches.

anyway what kind of bothers me the most is that Voldermort can be pretty easily identified - he cant be lynched, and if he tries to kill harry and fails, harry gets the identity of him, and thus has two means of identifying and killing voldemort. - this pretty identification can lead to easy victory for the good guys, as normal death eaters cant kill harry. So id left out revealing LV to harry, esp as you have seer in the game who can identify them both and thus also reveale LV to harry.

the fact that harry and LV can only kill each other means that you have no reasons to run the game once one of those two is dead - but the good guys as it was suggested has healer who can revive harry, but bad guys dont have anyone to replace LV - tho on the other side, this can be the most interesting part of the game: searching for the other one, assuming that they dont kill eachother on the first two days ;)


bah i should stop here... or i will confuse myself with all the thinking of this theme =)
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s_stabeler



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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject:  

ok, I'll re-write it once I've finished the last harry potter book, and thne we'll see where it goes.
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